Comments on: The Importance of the First Episode http://lupussol.wordpress.com/2006/07/17/the-importance-of-the-first-episode/ From anime to gaming to what I had for dinner last night Thu, 12 Nov 2009 23:20:42 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: arthurius http://lupussol.wordpress.com/2006/07/17/the-importance-of-the-first-episode/#comment-525 arthurius Wed, 15 Nov 2006 06:24:28 +0000 https://lupussol.wordpress.com/2006/07/17/the-importance-of-the-first-episode/#comment-525 You know, I agree with you, as a person. I f you don't like the first few episodes of an anime, never watch it. One one has the right to tell you that you are not worthy watching one if you did that. Animes are meant to watch in the first place, whether your an anime otaku or not. I too, even as an anime collector (who spends about $50 a month on anime) never wastes anything that doesn't satisfy me. All people have their different kinds of tastes. And if you're a high level collector like me, you'll have to watch every anime that comes out. But that doesn't mean i'll watch all the episodes of every anime. The first few episodes really matters in an anime (because you'll just waste time and money if you watch the entire series). But there is one rule that shouldn't be forgotten as an anime collector: "never judge the anime by its first episode." Trust me, some animes DO get better after episode 1. In short, watch 3 episodes before labelling it "ugly." That's the least # of episodes to be watched before criticizing it. You know, I agree with you, as a person. I f you don’t like the first few episodes of an anime, never watch it. One one has the right to tell you that you are not worthy watching one if you did that. Animes are meant to watch in the first place, whether your an anime otaku or not. I too, even as an anime collector (who spends about $50 a month on anime) never wastes anything that doesn’t satisfy me. All people have their different kinds of tastes. And if you’re a high level collector like me, you’ll have to watch every anime that comes out. But that doesn’t mean i’ll watch all the episodes of every anime. The first few episodes really matters in an anime (because you’ll just waste time and money if you watch the entire series). But there is one rule that shouldn’t be forgotten as an anime collector: “never judge the anime by its first episode.” Trust me, some animes DO get better after episode 1. In short, watch 3 episodes before labelling it “ugly.” That’s the least # of episodes to be watched before criticizing it.

]]> By: Lupus http://lupussol.wordpress.com/2006/07/17/the-importance-of-the-first-episode/#comment-109 Lupus Sat, 22 Jul 2006 14:10:51 +0000 https://lupussol.wordpress.com/2006/07/17/the-importance-of-the-first-episode/#comment-109 Lolikit: I've never seen Naruto anime. If you can compare it to the manga, which is better (not including fillers of course)? Tedfox: I have seen anime that gets better as the story progresses. To take a very recent example, Suzumiya didn't get good for me until around episode 10. Obviously it wasn't <em>bad</em> either, but it was good enough that I would continue to watch it, but not good enough that I would love it. Lolikit: I’ve never seen Naruto anime. If you can compare it to the manga, which is better (not including fillers of course)?

Tedfox: I have seen anime that gets better as the story progresses. To take a very recent example, Suzumiya didn’t get good for me until around episode 10. Obviously it wasn’t bad either, but it was good enough that I would continue to watch it, but not good enough that I would love it.

]]> By: TedFox http://lupussol.wordpress.com/2006/07/17/the-importance-of-the-first-episode/#comment-104 TedFox Fri, 21 Jul 2006 13:04:33 +0000 https://lupussol.wordpress.com/2006/07/17/the-importance-of-the-first-episode/#comment-104 Every season there are so many anime series, we can't possibly catch all. My opinion is that if you don't like a series after 3 eps, you probably won't like it anymore. Everybody has their own preference for anime, and if one likes it, doesn't mean another will too. If 3 episodes isn't even to catch your attention, you're better off looking for another series. I'm slowly adapting from a "must complete" mentality, to trying out more series. Forcing yourself to watch a series to complete it is just unbearable now. Every season there are so many anime series, we can’t possibly catch all.

My opinion is that if you don’t like a series after 3 eps, you probably won’t like it anymore.

Everybody has their own preference for anime, and if one likes it, doesn’t mean another will too. If 3 episodes isn’t even to catch your attention, you’re better off looking for another series.

I’m slowly adapting from a “must complete” mentality, to trying out more series. Forcing yourself to watch a series to complete it is just unbearable now.

]]> By: lolikitsune http://lupussol.wordpress.com/2006/07/17/the-importance-of-the-first-episode/#comment-101 lolikitsune Thu, 20 Jul 2006 17:14:04 +0000 https://lupussol.wordpress.com/2006/07/17/the-importance-of-the-first-episode/#comment-101 Naruto still has the best first episode ever. It's indisputable. It's fact. Death to the naysayers. Naruto still has the best first episode ever. It’s indisputable. It’s fact.

Death to the naysayers.

]]> By: Lupus http://lupussol.wordpress.com/2006/07/17/the-importance-of-the-first-episode/#comment-89 Lupus Mon, 17 Jul 2006 12:40:05 +0000 https://lupussol.wordpress.com/2006/07/17/the-importance-of-the-first-episode/#comment-89 Crayotic: I couldn't agree more. I'm not going to sit through hours of "blah" just to watch some good bits. There probably aren't many posts on Zegapain because a lot of people dropped it really early like I did. bj0rN`-: So you recommend Zegapain too? It's moved up a few spots on my to watch list now. TJ: Yeah, I think so too. But it inspired me to write this article, and I gotta give credit where credit is due. It made the article easier to write too =P Cuteproxy: Zegapain is queued on my long waiting list too. I've never seen Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien, but I've heard a lot about it. I'm never afraid of dropping shows, I simply don't have time to watch so many anyway. Seth: Yea, it's just silly to force yourself to watch something you don't enjoy. I've dropped many shows too. There are shows that I've downloaded a batch torrent of, watched 2 episodes and promptly deleted. It's a great waste of bandwidth, but there's really not much point keeping something that you won't watch anyway. Crayotic: I couldn’t agree more. I’m not going to sit through hours of “blah” just to watch some good bits. There probably aren’t many posts on Zegapain because a lot of people dropped it really early like I did.

bj0rN`-: So you recommend Zegapain too? It’s moved up a few spots on my to watch list now.

TJ: Yeah, I think so too. But it inspired me to write this article, and I gotta give credit where credit is due. It made the article easier to write too =P

Cuteproxy: Zegapain is queued on my long waiting list too. I’ve never seen Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien, but I’ve heard a lot about it. I’m never afraid of dropping shows, I simply don’t have time to watch so many anyway.

Seth: Yea, it’s just silly to force yourself to watch something you don’t enjoy. I’ve dropped many shows too. There are shows that I’ve downloaded a batch torrent of, watched 2 episodes and promptly deleted. It’s a great waste of bandwidth, but there’s really not much point keeping something that you won’t watch anyway.

]]> By: sethjohnson http://lupussol.wordpress.com/2006/07/17/the-importance-of-the-first-episode/#comment-88 sethjohnson Mon, 17 Jul 2006 11:07:50 +0000 https://lupussol.wordpress.com/2006/07/17/the-importance-of-the-first-episode/#comment-88 I stopped watching Fate/Stay Night after ten minutes. I probably don't qualify as a casual viewer, but there are probably close to as many shows I've dropped after one episode as there are shows I've watched to completion (that count comes in a little over 100, I think). Once upon a time, I had a rabid Once Started Must Complete mentality with games / books / etc, even if I had to keep coming back to the thing for several months (or years. haha. I still haven't finished reading Quicksilver), but eventually I got sick of forcing myself to continue reading things that were just boring me out of my mind for no good reason. I will drop a show at one episode, three episodes, halfway through, three quarters of the way through...pretty much anytime it irritates or bores me enough that I don't want to continue. The only way I pick things back up is severe boredom or really solid recommendations from people with tastes similar to mine. I stopped watching Fate/Stay Night after ten minutes.

I probably don’t qualify as a casual viewer, but there are probably close to as many shows I’ve dropped after one episode as there are shows I’ve watched to completion (that count comes in a little over 100, I think).

Once upon a time, I had a rabid Once Started Must Complete mentality with games / books / etc, even if I had to keep coming back to the thing for several months (or years. haha. I still haven’t finished reading Quicksilver), but eventually I got sick of forcing myself to continue reading things that were just boring me out of my mind for no good reason.

I will drop a show at one episode, three episodes, halfway through, three quarters of the way through…pretty much anytime it irritates or bores me enough that I don’t want to continue. The only way I pick things back up is severe boredom or really solid recommendations from people with tastes similar to mine.

]]> By: cuteproxy http://lupussol.wordpress.com/2006/07/17/the-importance-of-the-first-episode/#comment-87 cuteproxy Mon, 17 Jul 2006 09:57:54 +0000 https://lupussol.wordpress.com/2006/07/17/the-importance-of-the-first-episode/#comment-87 You stopped watching after two episodes? I stopped watching after the first episode! I'm worse! =p I've watched a lot of mecha anime, so I know what I like and what I don't like. Don't be afraid to drop series that don't interest you. But I do make an about-face sometimes, when somebody can convince me to re-watch a series that I dropped. Take Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien. I dropped it after the first episode, but now it's qeued on my long waiting list of anime to be watched. =) You stopped watching after two episodes? I stopped watching after the first episode! I’m worse! =p

I’ve watched a lot of mecha anime, so I know what I like and what I don’t like. Don’t be afraid to drop series that don’t interest you. But I do make an about-face sometimes, when somebody can convince me to re-watch a series that I dropped. Take Kimi Ga Nozomu Eien. I dropped it after the first episode, but now it’s qeued on my long waiting list of anime to be watched. =)

]]> By: tj han http://lupussol.wordpress.com/2006/07/17/the-importance-of-the-first-episode/#comment-86 tj han Mon, 17 Jul 2006 09:40:02 +0000 https://lupussol.wordpress.com/2006/07/17/the-importance-of-the-first-episode/#comment-86 I think he meant that in jest though. I think he meant that in jest though.

]]> By: bj0rN`- http://lupussol.wordpress.com/2006/07/17/the-importance-of-the-first-episode/#comment-85 bj0rN`- Mon, 17 Jul 2006 08:57:09 +0000 https://lupussol.wordpress.com/2006/07/17/the-importance-of-the-first-episode/#comment-85 Ok~ We just got to agree... The first episodes DOES play an important role in getting viewers to be interested. Heck, if a 1st episode does suck, I would do the same and drop it. I'll usually go back to watch it under 3 conditions: 1) I got nothing else better to do. 2) Its highly recommended by many. 3) Reading reviews got me a tiny bit interested. Well, all I can say is, screw whoever who said that you're not worthy. I mean, different have their own sense of taste. You need not force others to watch it just because you like it. Heck, if that's the case, perhaps loli hentais would have been spreaded all over by now. As for Zegapain, it's really worth to watch in my view. If you think it's lacking of post, perhaps I'll start to post some since I just setted up a new website too. Ok~ We just got to agree… The first episodes DOES play an important role in getting viewers to be interested. Heck, if a 1st episode does suck, I would do the same and drop it. I’ll usually go back to watch it under 3 conditions:

1) I got nothing else better to do.
2) Its highly recommended by many.
3) Reading reviews got me a tiny bit interested.

Well, all I can say is, screw whoever who said that you’re not worthy. I mean, different have their own sense of taste. You need not force others to watch it just because you like it. Heck, if that’s the case, perhaps loli hentais would have been spreaded all over by now.

As for Zegapain, it’s really worth to watch in my view. If you think it’s lacking of post, perhaps I’ll start to post some since I just setted up a new website too.

]]> By: Crayotic Rockwell http://lupussol.wordpress.com/2006/07/17/the-importance-of-the-first-episode/#comment-84 Crayotic Rockwell Mon, 17 Jul 2006 08:43:59 +0000 https://lupussol.wordpress.com/2006/07/17/the-importance-of-the-first-episode/#comment-84 I have grown to expect less than stellar episodes while an anime sets up it's cast of regulars before (hopefully) moving into the "real stuff" but your points are valid. Just because it's the norm, doesn't mean that it's actually good business practice. And even so... while it takes a pretty skilled hand to lay down the foundations for a series and also deliver compelling viewing at hte same time, putting out crap is still putting out crap. To move away from anime and take Lost for example. First few episodes were good, and then (imo) the rest of the s1 was largely tat along with the first 14 eps of s2.. but then it got pretty darn sweet for the last 10 episodes. But even if you were to consider those 10 episodes the bestest television ever made (which they aren't, but for sake of argument), it's still no excuse for making the viewer/me sit through countless hours of other "blahh." If someone didn't have the tenacity or willpower to tough it out, then fair enough. All they lose is their right to make a critical judgement on the series as a whole. But I think they can still keep their Anime Watching Licence AFIK. And how many blog posts do you see on Zegapain anyway? For a show so allegedly awesome I've hardly heard anything of it. I have grown to expect less than stellar episodes while an anime sets up it’s cast of regulars before (hopefully) moving into the “real stuff” but your points are valid. Just because it’s the norm, doesn’t mean that it’s actually good business practice.

And even so… while it takes a pretty skilled hand to lay down the foundations for a series and also deliver compelling viewing at hte same time, putting out crap is still putting out crap.

To move away from anime and take Lost for example. First few episodes were good, and then (imo) the rest of the s1 was largely tat along with the first 14 eps of s2.. but then it got pretty darn sweet for the last 10 episodes.

But even if you were to consider those 10 episodes the bestest television ever made (which they aren’t, but for sake of argument), it’s still no excuse for making the viewer/me sit through countless hours of other “blahh.” If someone didn’t have the tenacity or willpower to tough it out, then fair enough.

All they lose is their right to make a critical judgement on the series as a whole. But I think they can still keep their Anime Watching Licence AFIK.

And how many blog posts do you see on Zegapain anyway? For a show so allegedly awesome I’ve hardly heard anything of it.

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